Letters to the Editor: Police Chief Should Retire

The writers are Police Officer Andres Mejia of Lawrence Township Policemen’s Benevolent Association Local 119, and Police Officer Andrew Lee of Lawrence Township Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 209.

Editor's Note: The following two formal statements by police union officials were read during the public participation segment of the . They were submitted to Lawrenceville Patch as Letters to the Editor and are presented in their entirety.

During the council meeting, Township Manager Richard Krawczun and members of township council responded to some of the comments made by the police union officials in the these letters. Some of those responses can be and can also be heard in their entirety via the meeting audio available from the media box at the right.

While Mejia and Lee are among the seven Lawrence Township police officers who last month filed a against the township and township officials, both said last night that they were speaking not as individuals but in their capacities as union leaders.


The following was submitted by Police Officer Andres Mejia on behalf of Lawrence Township Policemen’s Benevolent Association Local 119.

Good Evening Council, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Manager:

I am Andres Mejia, lifelong township resident and the treasurer of Lawrence Township PBA Local 119. I am here tonight because of the proposed layoffs of three Lawrence Township Police Officers: Ryan Dunn, Iwona Smith, and Christopher Stylianou.

Ryan Dunn is a lifelong Lawrence resident and spent almost five years as a dispatcher with the Lawrence Township Police Department before realizing his lifelong dream of becoming a police officer in his home town. He is currently attending the Mercer County Police Academy and is at the top of his recruit class. His salary as a recruit in the police academy is $35,000 and he took a significant pay cut to realize his dream of becoming a Lawrence Township Police Officer.

Iwona Smith is a resident of Lambertville, is of Polish descent, and has been employed as a police officer with the Lawrence Township Police Department for less than one year. She has faced layoffs before, while employed as a police officer in the city of Trenton. Officer Smith speaks Polish fluently, as well as conversational Russian. She is the only police officer in Mercer County who speaks Polish and transferred to the Lawrence Township Police Department because of the large Polish and Russian populations that live in Lawrence and her ability to provide invaluable community relations to this diverse segment of the population that resides in Lawrence. Since coming to the Lawrence Township Police Department, Officer Smith has been a tremendous asset to the department and has made many positive relationships with the Polish and Russian communities in town and is looked upon as a role model for by many Polish and Russian residents of the township. Her salary is $52,891. Officer Smith is married and has a daughter.

Christopher Stylianou is a lifelong resident of Lawrence Township. He has been employed as a police officer in Lawrence Township for two and a half years. Officer Stylianou was previously employed with the New York City Police Department for two and a half years and left the NYPD because he wanted to be a police officer in his hometown of Lawrence. His salary is $71,991. Officer Stylianou is married and he and his wife are currently expecting their first child.

I want you, the council, Mr. Mayor and Mr. Manager to remember these officers’ names and their stories. It is the least you can do as you are threatening to take away their livelihoods.

These officers make a combined salary of $159,882. The Chief of Police makes $165,000. These three officers currently cost the Township of Lawrence including benefits, pension contributions, and salary a total of $247,896. The Chief of Police including salary, pension, and benefits cost the Township of Lawrence just shy of $233,000. The Chief of Police has 29 years of service and is eligible to retire at anytime. If the Chief of Police were to retire immediately, the township could easily save the jobs of these three young officers.

It is well known at this time that there are several deep-rooted problems within the Lawrence Township Police Department. The Chief of Police is responsible for the morale and day to day operations of the police department. Morale is at an all time low. This is a fact and is not fiction. We need change at the top of the department in the worst way. The Chief of Police, when given the opportunity to fight for his men and their jobs this past Tuesday, sat there in the crowd and did nothing to fight for them. The Chief of Police, instead of retiring and saving the jobs of these three officers is refusing to do so out of selfishness and greed. If the Chief were to retire today, he would be entitled to an annual pension of almost $113,000! Yet he refuses to do so and save the jobs of these officers.

This is the perfect opportunity to retire, save face, and do the right thing and yet he still refuses to do so. You the Council, Mr. Mayor, and Mr. Manager can do the right thing and ask the Chief of Police to step down and do the right thing. I urge you to do so, as do the members of the Lawrence Township Police Department. Upon the retirement of the Chief, you the Council can perhaps hire a police director at significant savings over appointing a new chief and begin to fix the problems within our police department. A director will not cost you anything in the form of pension contributions and, potentially, benefits as well. In addition a police director would make significantly less than the current Chief of Police does while also allowing for much needed reforms to occur with a fresh perspective from the outside.

In addition to the potential retirement of the Chief of Police, there is also further potential for savings in salary within the department. What is the status of the officer who is currently suspended with pay pending termination for medical reasons? This officer has been out of work for almost a year. This officer should and can be bought out and forced to retire. This would save the township in excess of $156,000 and further allow us to save jobs.

In reading the proposed budget I noticed there is $914,039.20 in Operations Reserves. What is this money earmarked for? This amount is almost as much money as is being saved by the proposed layoffs. Can this be explained to all of us?

In the budget, the township anticipates $539,000 in revenue from the red light cameras at Franklin Corner Rd and Route 1. How much revenue have the cameras brought into the township coffers year to date? It is my understanding that year to date the cameras have brought in hundreds of thousands of dollars and we are only in the middle of May. Is it possible that there is additional revenue not being reported that could save jobs?

In conclusion, I again urge you the council, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Manager to reconsider the proposed layoffs of three of my colleagues. I firmly believe in and have presented to you several alternatives that could easily save these three jobs and not compromise public safety in the Township of Lawrence. If you still wish to layoff Officers Ryan Dunn, Iwona Smith, and Christopher Stylianou, I want you to remember their names. It is the least you can do for them, the police department, and the residents of Lawrence Township. Lay these officers off and you will never see them again as they will be hired by surrounding municipalities.

Thank you for your time.  





The following was submitted by Police Officer Andrew Lee on behalf of Lawrence Township Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 209.

Good Evening, Ladies and Gentleman, Mayor and Members of Council. My name is Andrew Lee and I am the President of the Lawrence Township FOP Lodge 209.

Members of Council: Things are bad...very bad. People of all walks of life are laid off. Fuel prices have been at ridiculous levels for about eight years. Consumer costs are on the rise. People don't have the disposable income that they once had. They are mad. They are pointing fingers. Right here, most of the finger pointing is at you. I don't envy any of you. You are all inundated with tough decisions.

You have to live next to these people that are pointing at you. You shop with them, you socialize with them, you go for religious services with them, and most of you probably want their votes to reelect you when your time comes.

As Ms. Lewis said on Tuesday night, you suggested a tax to balance the budget. The people said "No!" You suggested a fee to balance the budget. The people said "No!"

Finally your last ditch effort to balance the budget was to tell people that services would be cut and employees would have to be laid off. Once again, the people said "No!" If Ms. Lewis doesn't object, for the sake of tonight, I'd like to coin this the "Lewis Principle." As Ms. Lewis said, sooner or later, you will have to say "Sorry but this is how it's going to be.” Ms. Lewis, in my 34 years, I have never heard that kind of honest, in-your-face candor from an elected official.

I salute you for your honesty! Mr. Krawczun, I also appreciate you honesty when you said last meeting that police officers and for that matter anyone else would never be able to reach the "American Dream" on 2 percent raises. You also made it clear that the town could not prosper or even continue to provide the same level of services on a 2 percent per year increase.

I wholeheartedly agree and also commend you for your honesty.

This town passed a resolution to support the governor's "Tool Kit." Mr. Krawczun can verify that I said it before, said it recently, and am saying it again that the financial requirements and bounds contained in this Tool Kit are financially impossible to deliver in today's economy and are fiscally irresponsible.

It's time to go back to the League of Municipalities, the governor and our legislators and tell them that this plan was beautiful on paper and in theory, but will be impossible to achieve in practice.

Enough is enough. Return the power to govern the municipalities to the municipalities. It's not the state's right to choose how the people of a town want to run the town's finances. It's the town's and its people's rights and jobs to do this.

In recent decades, many rural towns have seen high levels of residential development, particularly high density development in the forms of condos, town homes and small parcel single family homes. This has transformed these rural towns into a more suburban environment, resulting in a higher cost for providing education and other services to their residents. In response, these towns have sought to bringing commercial ratables to offset these costs.

Some have even given companies financial incentives to entice them into their towns.

Historically, they have beaten down your doors to come here. Your appointed planning and zoning boards have turned them away. I understand that sometimes this is as the wish of the citizens. Enter once again, the Lewis Principle. This case can be related to the sentiment that says everyone wants cheap electricity but no one wants the nuclear plant in their back yard. Sorry folks as Ms. Lewis said, sooner or later you have to say "Yes."

Our town chased away a major hospital which, in itself, wouldn't have been a ratable but if they followed suit with Capital Health Hopewell, they would have been extremely generous to our town and brought a demand for other medical office space ratables in town.

The town is in the process of rejecting the approval for a daycare center that would go into an old church building that has never before brought income to the township.

On the comer of Route 1 and Whitehead Road, a heavy commercial zone, WaWa wanted to open a store.

Again, this would have been a much higher ratable than the semi-developed eyesore that is there now. On the outskirts of town are two empty car lots that are becoming dilapidated as we speak and have been squatting grounds for homeless people.

Wal-Mart begged this township to let them build a store there. This would have been a huge source of revenue for the town.

Again, the town turned them away partially because of the Lewis Principle. These are just a few of examples of revenue that other towns would kill for but our town has rejected. It's time for this town to become business friendly.

Mayor and Council, this is not the time for friendships and personal loyalties. Unfortunately tough times call for tough decisions. A cost savings measure at this point would be for the Chief of Police to retire. This could provide savings for the officers facing layoffs to continue to provide for their young families.

As I stated previously those eligible to retire would secure a full pension and lose nothing. I think it's time that Council recognizes this cost saving option rather than to lose three trained and efficient police officers.

In these tough times and due to the budgetary crisis the township is facing it would be a more fiscally responsible decision for the town to have a Public Safety Director. With the retirement of the Chief of Police, a Public Safety Director would provide cost savings which inevitably cover majority of the cost of the three officers being laid off.

Another cost savings measure would be for the Deputy Chief to retire June 1 rather than September 1, as has been rumored. This would save the township a half-a-year's salary rather than the last quarter of his salary. This savings alone would provide a majority of the money necessary to save an officer being laid off.

My final point tonight is that this town has always prided itself on being a community. We even have a special "Community Day" festival every fall to celebrate our "community." Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to act like a community.

Thank you.

Joe Friday May 19, 2012 at 08:50 PM
The township manager stated at the council meeting when asked by reporters that there are not enough concessions that the police officers could make to save any jobs. It is therefore unrealistic to expect them to open their contract when it would not save a single job. Learn the facts before you criticize someone Lville Rob.
Hedley Lamarr May 19, 2012 at 10:06 PM
Mr. Hamilton unlike the Deputy Chief I am township taxpayer of over 10yrs. Why would the Deputy Chief or the Chief want the union to open the contract because if I am not mistaken they also benefit from the union negotiations? As I posted under another article I am sure your pension is well deserved as there was a time when the salaries of the police and other public employees were low so the pension and benefits made up for it. However in today’s world a cop making $80k+ a year is certainly even if not better than the average person in NJ and to add over-the-top benefits! Yes sir I am jealous! And I pay for it! Look at what greedy unions have done across the country: ran almost all manufacturing abroad, bankrupted the auto industry and crippled the US Post office. The Police union in this town and across the state needs to look to their auto industry brethren; union concessions have resurrected the US auto industry. Seems they figured out that by giving back they can save jobs! And a job at slightly lower wages and lower benefits is better no job! Union concessions may not save jobs today, and yes the today’s officers may never be able to line their personal pockets if concessions were given but it will help fuel the ability to add to their ranks in the future when financial times are better. It is about jobs and not personal financial gain? I just don’t think you should ask of others to leave their job when you not willing to contribute yourself.
josh hamilton May 20, 2012 at 01:02 AM
Let's get a few things straight Lamarr..... Police are essential and the auto industry isn't. I contributed for twenty five year and am now reaping the benefits of it. During my career, I missed so many family functions, holidays, birthdays, sporting events and school functions because I WAS AN ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEE. These are times that I will bever get back. Also, I worked through hurricanes, rain storms, tornados, excessive heat, snow storms and nor easters. What have you done Lamarr? (if you are indeed not who everyone believe you to be) If an auto isn't made today, no one will die and public safety will not ne at risk. So, your point about the auto industry is silly... Sorry that the men and women in blue are union employees but if they werent , people like you would want them to work for free. Coming up are holidays such as Memorial Day, Forth of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas. When you are sitting in your comfy chair or at a picnic drinking a brewski and eating barbque rest assure the men and women in blue will be working to protect people like you who are totally against them. As I am sitting here in my easy chair, you are making me sick with every post that you put on here. God bless the men and women in blue.
Lville Rob May 20, 2012 at 01:47 AM
Joe, I didn't hear the manager say any such thing - and none of the articles I read reported that he said that. Could you tell me at what point in the meeting he said that or what paper reported it?
Joe Friday May 20, 2012 at 01:58 AM
Lville Rob, it was posted in the article on NJ.com which I believe was in the Trenton Times. You can research for the article under the Mercer County link on NJ.com.
Lville Rob May 20, 2012 at 03:08 AM
Joe - thanks for that. Here's the quote from the article: Krawczun said that even with further concessions and agreement by the police to begin paying more for benefits, the underlying problem would remain. “Even if they were to give back, it doesn’t solve the existing proposed layoffs. We haven’t gone deep enough,” Krawzcun said. This seems a bit ambiguous - the first paragraph seems to refer to the fact that even with the layoffs, there is still more than a $1 million hole. But the second paragraph suggests that even if the police did agree to givebacks layoffs would still be necessary. Of course, the manager just recommends; the council has the final say. I wonder if the council would consider trading give-backs for no layoffs. Politically it would take a lot of heat off of them if they did.
Hedley Lamarr May 20, 2012 at 03:15 AM
Mr. Hamilton: How would have done your fine police work for 25yrs without a car? How can anyone say one job more important than another? I will say this, my job allows me to pay my taxes and therefore contribute to the monthly "thank you for your service" note you get in the form of your pension check. My point: The auto workers union gave back in wages and benefits and it saved jobs and created new jobs! The auto makers can now afford to make cars in the USA. If police union gave back – maybe it will save jobs. Maybe not today – but long term – it sure will help to get more officers on the street. As far police officers missing time with their family and working in bad weather, many people of all job types miss family events and work in bad weather. You knew that was the deal when you signed-up for it, so you get no sympathy from me. Now I totally agree with you that police officers are essential. I have no issues with their current wages and I think the township should purchase them every bit of equipment they need to keep them safe and work efficiently. We should hire as many officers as necessary, when the dollars are available. What I am against is paying retired officers a sustainable part of their salary and benefits long after they are retired. The taxpayers can no longer afford this model. I would rather see the pension checks you get go to keep these three officers on the street rather than to buying a retired cop a new easy chair.
hammock and boat May 20, 2012 at 03:21 AM
I disagree that the chief should retire to save money because the money saved would be pennies. I also understand the chief not wanting to retire with a black eye and I am sure he hopes brighter days are ahead. My feeling is that the chief has allowed his legacy to be tarnished by the deputy chief for to many years. As a result the department has plummeted into what is left. A group of unmotivated &disgruntled people as has been obviously displayed over the past weeks. With that said, the chief should retire because his effectiveness as a leader has been taken away. The majority of the officers don't have faith in his ability as the chief.I think the chief has pipe dreams of this blowing over and his officers falling into line under his command. A leader is only a leader because the people below him allow him to lead them. In this case that trust and respect is nonexistent which renders the chiefs efforts in leading useless. This police department is the result of all management and no leadership. This is nothing more then a gambling habit, the longer you play trying to win your money back the more you lose. The longer the chief stays to win his legacy back the worse it is going to get. It is time for a change rather then to keep pushing ahead for the sake of proving which side is more right. It would be very difficult for someone from the inside to turn the department around.There are 1 or 2 people that pop into mind but do not have the rank to be seriously considered.
josh hamilton May 20, 2012 at 10:20 AM
Mr Lamarr... I ask no sympathy from you because I knew the benefits package when I signed up way back when also. For people like you to think you will ever take it away is outlandish. When I worked, young fella, our cars hardly had am/FM radios in them. I will also tell you this, all my friends in the private sector have their nice shore houses and still vacation well. I live a small modest life with a small modest house but I sleep well at nnight knowing that I protected hundreds of thousands of town residents in Lawrence Township. From now on, I will write HL on my pension check in your honor knowing that you are still paying a piece of my pension.
Hedley Lamarr May 20, 2012 at 05:00 PM
Mr. Hamilton: I am not asking the retirees to give back; it’s too late for that. The retirees have agreement with the township, therefore the taxpayer, and it should always be honored. But it’s these very agreements over the past 30 yrs that have given you and your retired brothers and sisters’ extraordinary benefits have broken the taxpayer’s piggybank and have left the township nothing to give your young brothers and sisters. They are now being sacrificed, so the taxpayer can send you that pension check. I am asking that it be changed going forward. We taxpayers can no longer afford to fund overly generous benefits like the current retired officers enjoy. I am asking the union to look to the future maybe they can save jobs? I believe there are about 100 officers on the LTPD; if every officer gave back $3,000 that’s $300,000 in savings – sounds like 3 jobs to me. Sounds like a small price to save your brother or sister. And that’s not even talking about trimming the things that really are killing the taxpayer: a generous pension, health benefits, longevity, uniform allowance etc Not being close enough to these numbers, $300,000 or even $1 million may not be enough save them today. But that savings over the years may save or even create the jobs of your brothers and sisters who have not even walked into the academy.
josh hamilton May 20, 2012 at 05:59 PM
Ok Lamarr, now I know you are full of poo poo. You want to criticize the fine young men and women in blue and you don't have a clue how many police officers there are in Lawrence. This leads me to believe that you HAVE NO CLUE. Or you are in deed are the future retiree and you are trying to cover up now. In any case, get your facts straight with how many current officers there are since its been listed in many previous articles here on the patch. I will never expect the current men and women in blue to give back a penny. They work extremely hard for their money as did I for 25 Plus years. The stress of the job coupled with the hours they work warrant every dime they make and the benefit they receive. Lamarr, if you don't like paying the taxes in Lawrence Twsp, MOVE. Now stop being a cry baby and man up. BE SAFE MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE. HOLD STRONG ALSO. YOUR FORMER BROTHERS ARE ALL WITH YOU. GOD BLESS.
Hedley Lamarr May 20, 2012 at 07:38 PM
It’s Hedley... Mr. Hamilton: I have no criticism of the service level of the township police or any one individual. I think the LTPD is top-notch from the Chief to every patrol officer. What I do have problem is wasteful lawsuits and the current system that pays retirees an extraordinary amount of benefits. So much so that we are now out of money and need to cut 3 officers. If the current union leadership is about saving jobs give backs must happen especially on the retirement benefits or we will just have to continue cut officers so we can honor our commitment to pay retirees. This current model is unaffordable to the taxpayer now and in the future. Yes, be safe men and women in blue. Your former brothers and sisters are with you as they cash their pension check and you are heading to the unemployment line.
Chief Wahoo May 20, 2012 at 07:43 PM
of course you formers are all with them......you need them to believe your rhetoric , to keep the pension ponzi scam going (and why every scummy union always wants more and more cops to increase the numbers, need them to feed that pension ponzi , who cares if its long gone when they need it, you will be pushing daisies)
Chief Wahoo May 20, 2012 at 07:45 PM
get ready to lose 3 or more next year and the year after that......just wait until they finally read the tea leaves and start getting "disabled" on the job
Chief Wahoo May 20, 2012 at 10:01 PM
josh hamilton May 20, 2012 at 11:45 PM
Lamarr, sounds like you are a man who might be involved in that lawsuit. Remember, we rode together back in the day. Keep laying off and all you do is create a worse situation. Back in 1981, when layoffs happened, the cops salaries went through the roof. This will happen again. Overtime will then cost the town 1.5 percent of the officers salary. So, the low salary officers being laid off will then be replaced by the most senior officers with highest salaries on over time. The town will really be broke then. If you lay off too many officers, Lawrence will be Trenton north. All of your property values will go down. I am so glad that I moved out of there after retirement. My PENSION money is now going to the economics of my town. Soon, I will be moving out of state and Lamarr and Chief Wahoo, you will be paying for someone who will stimulating the economy of another state. That's youngsters. By the way, Chief Wahoo, have you been away? We've missed you over the last few days. Kisses....
Hedley Lamarr May 21, 2012 at 12:34 AM
It's Hedley, Mr. Hamilton: I have never called for more layoffs I don’t want more layoffs, I am sure the Chief, the township manager, the council, and the Union leadership doesn’t either. The problem as I see it, it that we are currently out of money. There are bills the township (i.e. the taxpayer) must pay; one these bills is the overly generous retirement package police officers receive. We are committed to paying this bill to current retirees, as it has been promised to you. Your pension gets paid, along with all the other bills the township is committed to paying and now there is nothing left to pay these young officers their salary. What I have called for is the Union to think about the future of this town and this state, by giving back some this overly generous retirement and benefits package. They may save jobs and create more police jobs. It time to end this model that pays retirees a substantial amount of money to sit home, when I would rather see that money go to putting more young officers on the street. I am fearful of the amount of police service we will lose if we have to continue to cut officers. Unless money falls from the sky – the choice as I see it we continue to pay into this large pension/retirement system for years to come or pay to put officers on the street. I choose more officers.
josh hamilton May 21, 2012 at 12:56 AM
Lamarr, why are you avoiding the DC? You are proving more and more to me that you are the future retiree. Needless to say, if you so fearful of the police services that you will be losing if the town lays off more officers, rest assure the remaining officers will be well compensated. I hope when they make all that overtime. They go out and buy the most expensive cars and houses they can find. Keep the over time budget rolling. You my friend and people like Chief Wahoooooo haven't see anything yet. I swept up on overtime during the 1981 layoffs. I hope these fine young men and women do also.
josh hamilton May 21, 2012 at 01:09 AM
You are one of a kind Wahoo. But, the more officers they lose, the more over time YOU as town people will pay in over time. Instead of paying these low salaried officers you will be paying the most senior officers 1.5 % of their hourly rate in overtime. YOU and your small group who are against the police will BANKRUPT the town. The most senior officers will then retire, move out of state, like I am in a short period of time and spend that mega money they make in overtime on a beautiful house down south and spend that New Jersey pension money on another states economy. Wahoo, you don't have a clue because eventually the layoffs will stop and the town will still be broke. Then what? The merger with another town? By that time, the majority of the officers will be retired and living close to me down south. Jealousy will never make you a happy man. Just raise your heart rate every time you think of my fellow brother and sisters in the blue uniform living the good life. Thanks for paying your taxes Wahoo. You are contributing to my pension check every month. For that, I can't be mad at you. Instead of making your check out to the Township of Lawrence next month Wahoo, make it out to me, Josh Hamilton, Retired Police Officer and New Jersey pension recipient. Your the best. Kisses...
Intheknow May 21, 2012 at 02:21 PM
100 officers ? I don't think so, maybe 70, and that's counting everyone !
Chief Wahoo May 21, 2012 at 02:35 PM
Maybe he is counting the 30 retired public takers who think they deserve a pension so they can for their girlfriends condos.
Hedley Lamarr May 21, 2012 at 02:51 PM
So let’s change the calculation to 70 x $4,300 = $301,000 or we can even go to 60 x $5,000 = $300,000. I had the caveat that I am not close enough to the numbers. The point was more that no one should ask others to give unless they are willing to give themselves.
BarbJohnson May 22, 2012 at 07:27 PM
I have seen the police chief on patrol at the Quakerbridge Mall at various times. When I inquired why he would be patrolling the mall I was told that he was doing overtime to pad his pension. Why should someone who makes well over 100K be permitted to do this and wouldn't it have been a lot less expensive to have a patrol officer on duty at the mall?
Chief Wahoo May 22, 2012 at 09:01 PM
he might be working OT to pay for his girlfriends condo , but not to boost his pension, as OT does not count towards pension (guess the Union couldnt get everything they ever tried to grab)
Hedley_Lamarr May 22, 2012 at 09:12 PM
Ms. Johnson: I believe you were misinformed. My understanding is that the QB Mall (or any other private place) that hires police pays the township, who then pays the officer for their time. They all get paid the same rate no matter the rank of the officer who works the overtime and none of this money goes towards their pension. So its win-win – extra money for officers at zero taxpayer expense! Now why the Chief was working there versus a patrolman, I can not answer as I am not sure how the overtime jobs are assigned. Perhaps no one else was available that day?
Chief Ortalano May 22, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Hedley you know exactly how the overtime jobs work.
Hedley Lamarr May 22, 2012 at 10:22 PM
Do I have it wrong?
Chief Ortalano May 23, 2012 at 12:36 AM
"as I am not sure how the overtime jobs are assigned" - Hedley. You do know how the jobs are assigned. So yes you have it wrong.
josh hamilton May 23, 2012 at 01:09 AM
Lamarr, for a guy has no idea of any of the inner workings of the Police Department, you seem to know a lot.
Hedley Lamarr May 23, 2012 at 03:09 AM
It's Hedley... Gents not sure what your are implying but as you can read in 90% of my posts I am only concerned where my tax dollars are spent. I actually felt like I was defending the police overtime in that post. Man, you guys are hard bunch to please.


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